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Ford C-Max Energi

2013 C-Max Energy, courtesy of Ford
2013 C-Max Energy, courtesy of Ford
2013 C-Max Energy, courtesy of Ford
2013 C-Max Energy, courtesy of Ford
2013 C-Max Energy, courtesy of Ford

Description

The 2013 Ford C-Max Energi is a plug-in hybrid version of the Ford C-Max. The C-Max Energi can drive in all electric mode up to 75 mph and has a total range of over 600 miles(gasoline and electric combined). Unlike the Chevrolet Volt, the car will have an intermediary blended phase where both battery and gasoline energy sources are used. The 2013 Ford C-Max Energi is now available in North America.

Specs

Vehicle Type: 
Cars & Trucks
Drivetrain: 
PHEV
Range: 
21 mi
Target: 
Now Available
Top Speed: 
90 mph
Connector Type: 
J1772
Price (USD): 
$32,950

Comments

Rodney L. Wright's picture

Overall Suggestions for Future EVs

First, and most annoying: Stacking the plug-in battery atop the hybrid battery seriously restricts what can be carried in the C-MAX small wagon. OK, OK, I know this was a first production cut. But if Ford is listening to its customers, it will want a more advanced design. What I would expect in the future is a car SPECIFICALLY designed to be an EV. Look at the Tesla... they started with an idea and built the car to that idea. For example, the battery (I've only looked at the S model) is not stacked in the trunk but UNDER the car platform. If that had been done with the C-MAX, it might be a couple inches taller but that would be an advantage as the car is already quite low. Putting the battery under the platform should actually improve handling as it should lower the center of gravity. Second: EV Range is punk. I bought one of the first 2013 C-MAX Energy models (certainly the first in my dealers sales and they are a high-volume dealer.) In late spring or early fall, at best I get 25 miles range. In mid-winter, the range drops to around 12 miles. I drive a short distance to my volunteer work, and if that is ALL I do, I can make it home without going into gasoline mode. But if I add a trip to the grocery store or similar daily occurrence I usually run out of EV range and end up in gas mode. Again, let's look at the Tesla S which has a range of nearly 300 miles. For me, it would dramatically change my feelings about this car if it had a range above 150 miles. Then almost all days would be EV only. Third: Long range gasoline only milage is disappointing for a car that sells also in a hybrid only version. I have to drive about 650 miles each way to take care of my 100 year old mother-in-law and we do that 5 times per year. Nearly all of the round trip is on gas only and there are almost no opportunities to charge at the destination. On those trips we struggle to average over 34 MPG which is not very good for such a little car. So, Ford: What I'm looking for in the next generation is an electric car with an on-board generator. Range on EV only should be about 200+ miles, then the on-board generator could kick in to keep it going much farther. I don't want an all-electric car due to need for longer trips such as these. Battery density keeps improving, and prices dropping. Design it as EV from the get go but offer an on-board generator option for longer trips. Now THAT would be a great car. To me, this sounds like a Tesla S with an on-board generator but at a much more affordable price. Given the total sales of Ford there is opportunity for economy of scale.
Rodney L. Wright's picture

Overall Suggestions for Future EVs

First, and most annoying: Stacking the plug-in battery atop the hybrid battery seriously restricts what can be carried in the C-MAX small wagon. OK, OK, I know this was a first production cut. But if Ford is listening to its customers, it will want a more advanced design. What I would expect in the future is a car SPECIFICALLY designed to be an EV. Look at the Tesla... they started with an idea and built the car to that idea. For example, the battery (I've only looked at the S model) is not stacked in the trunk but UNDER the car platform. If that had been done with the C-MAX, it might be a couple inches taller but that would be an advantage as the car is already quite low. Putting the battery under the platform should actually improve handling as it should lower the center of gravity. Second: EV Range is punk. I bought one of the first 2013 C-MAX Energy models (certainly the first in my dealers sales and they are a high-volume dealer.) In late spring or early fall, at best I get 25 miles range. In mid-winter, the range drops to around 12 miles. I drive a short distance to my volunteer work, and if that is ALL I do, I can make it home without going into gasoline mode. But if I add a trip to the grocery store or similar daily occurrence I usually run out of EV range and end up in gas mode. Again, let's look at the Tesla S which has a range of nearly 300 miles. For me, it would dramatically change my feelings about this car if it had a range above 150 miles. Then almost all days would be EV only. Third: Long range gasoline only milage is disappointing for a car that sells also in a hybrid only version. I have to drive about 650 miles each way to take care of my 100 year old mother-in-law and we do that 5 times per year. Nearly all of the round trip is on gas only and there are almost no opportunities to charge at the destination. On those trips we struggle to average over 34 MPG which is not very good for such a little car. So, Ford: What I'm looking for in the next generation is an electric car with an on-board generator. Range on EV only should be about 200+ miles, then the on-board generator could kick in to keep it going much farther. I don't want an all-electric car due to need for longer trips such as these. Battery density keeps improving, and prices dropping. Design it as EV from the get go but offer an on-board generator option for longer trips. Now THAT would be a great car. To me, this sounds like a Tesla S with an on-board generator but at a much more affordable price. Given the total sales of Ford there is opportunity for economy of scale.
Rodney L. Wright's picture

Overall Suggestions for Future EVs

First, and most annoying: Stacking the plug-in battery atop the hybrid battery seriously restricts what can be carried in the C-MAX small wagon. OK, OK, I know this was a first production cut. But if Ford is listening to its customers, it will want a more advanced design. What I would expect in the future is a car SPECIFICALLY designed to be an EV. Look at the Tesla... they started with an idea and built the car to that idea. For example, the battery (I've only looked at the S model) is not stacked in the trunk but UNDER the car platform. If that had been done with the C-MAX, it might be a couple inches taller but that would be an advantage as the car is already quite low. Putting the battery under the platform should actually improve handling as it should lower the center of gravity. Second: EV Range is punk. I bought one of the first 2013 C-MAX Energy models (certainly the first in my dealers sales and they are a high-volume dealer.) In late spring or early fall, at best I get 25 miles range. In mid-winter, the range drops to around 12 miles. I drive a short distance to my volunteer work, and if that is ALL I do, I can make it home without going into gasoline mode. But if I add a trip to the grocery store or similar daily occurrence I usually run out of EV range and end up in gas mode. Again, let's look at the Tesla S which has a range of nearly 300 miles. For me, it would dramatically change my feelings about this car if it had a range above 150 miles. Then almost all days would be EV only. Third: Long range gasoline only milage is disappointing for a car that sells also in a hybrid only version. I have to drive about 650 miles each way to take care of my 100 year old mother-in-law and we do that 5 times per year. Nearly all of the round trip is on gas only and there are almost no opportunities to charge at the destination. On those trips we struggle to average over 34 MPG which is not very good for such a little car. So, Ford: What I'm looking for in the next generation is an electric car with an on-board generator. Range on EV only should be about 200+ miles, then the on-board generator could kick in to keep it going much farther. I don't want an all-electric car due to need for longer trips such as these. Battery density keeps improving, and prices dropping. Design it as EV from the get go but offer an on-board generator option for longer trips. Now THAT would be a great car. To me, this sounds like a Tesla S with an on-board generator but at a much more affordable price. Given the total sales of Ford there is opportunity for economy of scale.
Anonymous's picture

Loose grounding pin-plug can't be replaced

My power cord 110 v charger plug grounding pin came loose and the unit stopped working. So I thought I would just replace the plug. It was only after I cut off the broken plug that I discovered that in addition to the black, white and green wires, there were two smaller wires, one brown and one blue. Does anyone know where these go? My Ford dealer service manager says he can’t find out, and that the solution is to buy a complete new unit. Seems a little extreme for a broken plug.
Ken Bloom's picture

tracing wires

if you take the old plug and use a ohm meter you could possibly verify what contact that the additional wires attach to. My guess is that they attach to the Hot and Cold contacts and are used to measure if the cord is showing high resistance due to wire fatigue and prevent a fire condition should the voltage drop be too great.
Kayetee's picture

Cost of of electricity

If it takes 5.5 hours to charge my Ford Fusion Energi and the cost of off peak electricity where I live in California is $.10/kWh, does that mean it costs $.55 to charge my car. Might seem obvious, but there might me another factor I'm not figuring in.
CreateThis's picture

You can use this free MPGe

You can use this free MPGe Cost Comparison Calculator to estimate how much it costs to drive the Ford C-Max Energi on gas vs electric: http://mpgecost.com/calculator/mpge-cost-comparison#/ You need to know are the MPGe ratings of the Ford C-Max Energi: 95 city / 81 hwy And the gas MPG ratings of the Ford C-Max Energi: 40 city / 36 hwy And the price of gas and electricity in your area. In Tennessee at the time of this writing, 87 octane gas costs $1.36 and electricity is 10 cents per kilowatt hour ( 0.10 ). The C-Max Energi has a 19 mile range, so I plug that into the calculator and I get: 67 cents hwy electric for 19 miles travel. 65 cents hwy gas for 19 miles travel. and 79 cents city electric for 19 miles travel. 72 cents city gas for 19 miles travel. So, according to those estimates, it's actually cheaper to run on gas. MPGe and MPG are only estimates, so your actual real world results may be different. I just think it's interesting that gas is so cheap right now. When it gets more expensive again, electric will once again be cheaper, of course. Here's an example image of what this information looks like, plugged into the calculator, so you can modify it with local electric/gas prices: http://imgur.com/a/Xfs9N
CreateThis's picture

You can use this free MPGe

You can use this free MPGe Cost Comparison Calculator to estimate how much it costs to drive the Ford C-Max Energi on gas vs electric: http://mpgecost.com/calculator/mpge-cost-comparison#/ You need to know are the MPGe ratings of the Ford C-Max Energi: 95 city / 81 hwy And the gas MPG ratings of the Ford C-Max Energi: 40 city / 36 hwy And the price of gas and electricity in your area. In Tennessee at the time of this writing, 87 octane gas costs $1.36 and electricity is 10 cents per kilowatt hour ( 0.10 ). The C-Max Energi has a 19 mile range, so I plug that into the calculator and I get: 67 cents hwy electric for 19 miles travel. 65 cents hwy gas for 19 miles travel. and 79 cents city electric for 19 miles travel. 72 cents city gas for 19 miles travel. So, according to those estimates, it's actually cheaper to run on gas. MPGe and MPG are only estimates, so your actual real world results may be different. I just think it's interesting that gas is so cheap right now. When it gets more expensive again, electric will once again be cheaper, of course. Here's an example image of what this information looks like, plugged into the calculator, so you can modify it with local electric/gas prices: http://imgur.com/a/Xfs9N
Anonymous's picture

You need to multiply the 5.5

You need to multiply the 5.5 hours by the number of kilowatts your charger is consuming because you are paying $0.10 per kilowatt per hour (hence kWh). It looks like the Fusion is equipped with a 3.3 kW charger so your cost is probably around $1.80 (3.3 x 0.10 x 5.5).
Anonymous's picture

You need to multiply the 5.5

You need to multiply the 5.5 hours by the number of kilowatts your charger is consuming because you are paying $0.10 per kilowatt per hour (hence kWh). It looks like the Fusion is equipped with a 3.3 kW charger so your cost is probably around $1.80 (3.3 x 0.10 x 5.5).

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